Episode 25,

The Wall (repeat Program)

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Peter Andreas, Major General Michael Davidson & Peter Robinson

Donald Trump’s promise to build a big beautiful wall  along the border with Mexico was central to his campaign and will likely be a critical measure of his presidency.


Candidate Donald Trump described his big, beautiful wall along the Mexican frontier in existential terms; If you don’t have a border, you don’t have a country. Host Neal Conan explores how secure borders became part of the definition of a state, how well walls worked through history and talks with Peter Robinson, the speechwriter who came up withPresident Ronald Reagan’s famous line in Berlin: “Mister Gorbachev, tear down this wall.”



Peter Andreas is the John Hay Professor of International Studies at the Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs at Brown University, where he also holds a joint appointment in the Political Science Dept. He’s the author or co-author of numerous scholarly articles and 10 books. His most recent book is Chasing the Revolution: On the Run with my Radical Mother.





Recommended Reading

Major General Michael Davidson (Ret) recommends George Washington: The Wonder of the Age by John Rhodehamel.


 Peter Robinson speechwriter for President Ronald Reagan. In 1987 he wrote one of President Reagan’s most memorable speeches in which the president, speaking at the Brandenburg Gate with the Berlin Wall behind him, called on Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev to ‘’tear down this wall.”  Robinson is a research fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution where he writes about business and politics. He’s the author of three books, including How Ronald Reagan Changed My Life.